Denise Neish - Choosing a Joyful Life with Cancer

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Hooray for New Drugs!

I continue to feel well since my recurrence of cancer in my right iliac last summer. At that time, and after much research, and flying to Houston for a second opinion, we decided that I needed to get on Palbociclib, a new drug that was still in it’s final trial phase. I was a perfect fit for this targeted therapy, which is just a daily oral drug with minimal side effects, and so I began the process of trying to get on the trial.

I decided to take another drug while I went through the process of getting on Palbociclib, because I wasn’t sure how long it would take, and I didn’t want to go untreated for too long. I’m glad I did, because several months later, I still wasn’t on Palbo, and I was becoming more concerned that I would not be able to get on it.

Recently, I was so happy to hear that Pfizer had received FDA approval for the drug I needed. I assumed that meant I would be able to get it because my doctors recommended it for me. I was disappointed to learn that they had changed one little criteria for receiving Palbociclib. It was only for women who had not been on prior endocrine therapy, which ruled me out. I looked for alternative routes to getting access to this drug, and kept running into brick walls.

I went into Huntsman Cancer Hospital a couple of weeks ago for a PET/CT scan and was relieved to find that I still just have that one little spot of cancer, and it does not appear to have grown. Everything is stable, so that is great! I was so happy that my interim drug has been working. It helped me to not feel so anxious about getting onto Palbociclib right away, but I still wanted to eventually get on it.

Well, last week it was confirmed to me that holding out for Palbociclib was the right thing to do, because, surprisingly, my insurance decided to pre-approve me for this drug. I couldn’t believe it! It would normally cost about 11,000$/month, but now it will cost me 5$/month. I think we can swing that! :) I am grateful that despite the long wait, I am finally on the treatment that I felt right about from the beginning. And the waiting has not caused the cancer to grow.

Today I got a blood test, and then picked up my new fancy drugs. I will take two drugs in combination. The Palbociclib alone costs about 500$ per pill, without insurance! I take it for three weeks, then I will take a week off, so that my white blood cell count won’t get too low. The other drug, Femara, I will take daily. Palbociclib is a chemo drug, but the side effects are usually minimal, and it should be something that I can take for a long time, as long as it is working for me. I am hoping that I will continue to feel as well as I currently feel, which is totally great!

Thank you for those of you who continue to ask how I am, think of me, and pray for me and our family. We really are all doing quite well right now and just enjoying life. I feel really grateful for all that I have, for the happiness of my family, and for my health and strength, and the great treatment that is available to me.

Trip to Houston for Some Answers

After much planning, and arrangements that included my mother-in-law and several other great friends, Branden and I spent the week in Houston, at MD Anderson, trying to figure out the best plan for me in fighting my cancer recurrence.  We met with a doctor who was recommended to us by multiple people, and I feel like he lived up to his reputation.

When I first found that the cancer had returned I went to my old oncologist, Dr. Buys, at Huntsman Cancer Institute in Salt Lake. She really is wonderful, and has been an incredible partner in battling my cancer thus far. I don’t think I would have had two fabulous years in remission without her wise advice and genuine concern for me. But when we spoke with Dr. Buys, she didn’t suggest what we were expecting.

Let me briefly explain metastatic breast cancer. It started in my breast originally, but because it travelled to my bones, that means it has gotten into my bone marrow and found a good landing place in my bones where it grew. At first the cancer was in my spine and pelvis. After all the treatment I received three years ago, we no longer saw evidence of cancer in my body, but doctors mostly agreed that it would pop up somewhere again. We were hopeful that they were wrong, but knew it was unlikely.

Now, eradicating my one visible tumor with radiation should not be a problem. The problem is that now we know the cancer is still circulating in my bone marrow, blood stream, etc., and will land and make more tumors if we don’t treat it systemically (which means my whole body, not just the one spot). That was why we assumed that Dr. Buys would recommend chemotherapy again, but this time she did not think that was the best idea.

According to her, the chances are “miniscule” that I will completely eradicate the cancer, and my best bet right now is to try an approach with less side-effects than chemo so that I can continue to feel well. My type of cancer is stimulated by estrogen, and so trying a new estrogen blocker is one method of holding back the cancer for a while. Many women with metastatic breast cancer switch from one estrogen blocker to the next over time. One drug will work for some time, and when that stops working, sometimes another one will work. This method can go on for many years if you are fortunate, treating the cancer as sort of “chronic” rather than “terminal”.

I have read a lot over the past three years, and I know that this is the recommended treatment plan for someone in my position, but it has been hard to wrap my head around that. I asked Dr. Buys for her suggestion on a more aggressive treatment plan, such as chemo, and she said she would really try to talk me out of it. “Why would you want to do that to yourself?” were her exact words. I respect her opinion very much, but left her office feeling a bit disappointed. We decided to go to MD Anderson in Houston to get a second opinion.

It was a few weeks before I was able to get the appointment with Dr. Valero, but I felt the wait was worth it. I had some time to think about what Dr. Buys said in the weeks leading up to my appointment with Dr. Valero, and felt that if he suggested the same type of treatment as Dr. Buys suggested, I should listen. When he read my medical history and came to speak with me he started off by basically giving me a much needed pep talk.

Dr. Valero stated confidently, “You can live with breast cancer.” He let that sink in for a minute and then said, “You have lived with breast cancer for a long time now.” Just as I was thinking that three years wasn’t really that long, he said, “You had it many years before you were diagnosed, or it wouldn’t have been at the stage it was when it was discovered.” Then he asked me if I had any pain. When I said no, he said, “See?! You wouldn’t even know you had cancer now if we did not see it on your scan. You can run, you can take care of your children, and you can have an active lifestyle with cancer. So, . . . what we need to do, is keep you feeling well for a long time, and give you a drug that will stop or slow the growth of the cancer.”

He then told me that we are at a good place. My cancer is not causing me any problems, and we have several “tools in the toolbox” right now because I have not had many different drugs yet. After discussing some of the hormone blockers on the market right now, he recommended that I try to get into a trial of a new type of drug called a CDK inhibitor. It does not just block estrogen, but actually destroys estrogen receptors. It has had some amazingly effective results in early phases of experimentation. It is usually used in combination with an estrogen blocker, and so it can be a strong line of defense. Some early results are showing a much longer duration of time before it stops being effective than just the estrogen blockers alone. He said, more than once, that if he were in my situation, he would try to get that drug. The CDK inhibitor was something that Dr. Buys had suggested, but when she couldn’t find an open trial right away, she just moved along to the idea of an estrogen blocker alone. But basically they both were suggesting the same thing.

I trusted Dr. Valero’s advice, but could not leave without asking, “So, do we not ever try for a cure then at this point?”

Dr. Valero quickly raised his finger and said, “I did not say that!” Then he said, “If we have good success for a long time with this approach, and we see that tumor shrink, and no new tumors appear, then maybe we will zap it with radiation and hope to get rid of it completely at that point.” I liked his answer, even if he was possibly patronizing me a bit. It has taken me a long time to come to an acceptance of a treatment plan that is not with the intent to cure me, but I can accept this approach much easier if I am still allowed to hope for a cure at some point, . . . and I do.

After several phone calls, I am now likely able to get into a trial at Huntsman Cancer Institute of the CDK inhibitor, plus two other estrogen blockers with it, starting in September. I feel so good about this plan, and that was what I was praying for; something that felt right.

“Living with cancer” is something I have done for a long time, and I can continue to do it for a long time if necessary. And if “living with cancer” is necessary, you can bet that I will live the heck out of my life! I will be the healthiest person you know with cancer, and I will plan on setting some sort of record for the person who has lived the longest with metastatic breast cancer! ;) And really, I will just do my best to live with whatever comes my way, which is all that any of us can do anyway.

Thank you for those of you who helped with our kids while we were gone this week, and for all of you who have sent encouraging messages or who have prayed for us. I am grateful for so many truly wonderful people in my life, for feeling well, for a husband who loves me enough to take me all over for the best treatment, for my sweet kiddos, and for a relationship with my Heavenly Father. I am blessed.

Round 2

Friends,

We found out about two weeks ago that my cancer has returned. This time it is only in one small place in my lower back, in the iliac bone. Of course we are disappointed that I am no longer in remission, but this is not a huge surprise like the first time either. We have known that it was likely I would deal with this cancer again at some point. We just wished it would have been a longer remission.

Branden and I are still figuring out what my treatment plan will be. I feel great right now, and we are hopeful that I will continue to feel well during treatment. I may, or may not, do chemo. I’m almost certain that I will do radiation to that spot, but there are oral drugs that I may take rather than chemo. We just are not sure right now.

We have one opinion from my oncologist at Huntsman, but have decided that we will take a week-long trip out to MD Anderson in Houston, TX, which is arguably the best cancer hospital there is. We will be going the week of August 18th, (the first week of school for my kids) and I will have all sorts of tests while I’m there. I should come back with the best treatment plan for me, and some peace of mind that we have done our research and received multiple opinions from some well-respected oncologists.

We are really doing just fine. I am optimistic that I will be back in remission again soon. I thank you all for your love, support, and prayers in the past, and ask for your continued prayers. I am so fortunate to have, really and truly, the best family (on both sides) and friends. I am grateful for my faith, my husband, my children, and I feel strong and happy. My life is wonderful. My only complaint is that darn cancer! Hopefully we can get rid of it once and for all this time! I have learned that all I can to do is ‘do my best’. The rest is in the hands of my Heavenly Father.

I won’t begin any sort of treatment until after my trip next month to Houston. We will keep you posted on what we learn when we get back. And don’t worry, we really are doing fine, I just wanted to let you all know since I have shared this with you in the past. Love to each of you!!

Denise

May 2014 PET scan results

Thank you to everyone who prayed for me to have a clear PET scan. I got the results today, and it all looks good for the most part. But I do wish these things would be more conclusive. There does not appear to be cancer anywhere, but there is one little spot that is questionable. It is in the sacro-iliac bone in my lower back. I have to go back for another scan in two months to follow up on it.

To be honest, I am almost certain it is okay. I know that it is possible for the scans to show stress in the bones, and I did a hard run outside on Saturday (2 days before my scan), so my guess is that is why there appears to be some action going on in that area. I’m not just saying this, . . . I really do think it is nothing.

We have dealt with a questionable PET scan before, and everything turned out fine. It just means that I will have to wait until July to be 100% confident that my body is as healthy as it feels.

Until then, I’m pleased to announce that I have now been in remission for 2 years, and I will assume that is going to continue until I hear otherwise. All is well!!! Love you guys!!!

PET scan results in!

PET scan results in!

Written Nov 5, 2013 9:07pm

Yesterday was PET scan day.  I will admit, I dread it each time!!  I really felt like this would be fine, but if I’m ever wrong, obviously that is a huge life-changer for us, and I know all too well what battling cancer is.I had Kevin, the guy who has done almost all of my scans.  I always feel like I’m seeing an old friend when I see him!  He’s this big Missouri guy with a genuinely kind personality.  He always treats me well and lets me look at the scan at the end.  He has always been optimistic for me, even the first time when we looked at the scan together and it was obvious there was something going on.  I remember he told me that he couldn’t read the scan for me (although, of course he could, he just isn’t supposed to.)  “But”, he said, “if it is cancer, you just stay positive.  It’s amazing how much a positive attitude can help.  You stay positive no matter what the doctors say!”  Then he told me about his dad beating some other type of cancer that was really advanced.  I will always remember his optimism while I was so afraid and in such despair.  What a great guy!Anyway, Kevin was there again, and he remarked how incredible it was that I was doing so well having been diagnosed with stage four breast cancer.  He said, “I can’t wait to look at this scan!”  And I said, “Me too, ’cause it’s going to be awesome!!”The process took much longer than usual because there were some problems with the big machine, and I was also told that due to Obamacare we had to do the PET  and CT scans separately rather than together for some billing reason.  Weird. That made it take longer too. I had to hold completely still for about an hour after I had been sitting in a dark room drinking my huge nasty drink for about two hours!!  My arms were above my head, and my right arm fell asleep and then was just painful for most of the scan.  It was so dead when I was done that I couldn’t feel it at all when I pinched it!  Anyway, I was glad to be done with the scan.

Today I received a phone call from some nurse telling me that my scan was “stable”.  I said, “Stable . .  as in no cancer?”  He said, “Stable means no change from last time.”  I had to clarify with him that my last few scans had been completely clear, and wanted to make sure that’s what he meant.  Finally he just told me that it showed no signs of cancer.  Wish he would have just said that the first time!  ;)

I am just feeling super grateful and relieved!  It really is quite remarkable to be a year and a half in remission after having cancer in many lymph nodes and in my spine and pelvis.  It’s hard to explain how strange it is to allow myself to believe that I may be completely well. I am sincerely grateful to be alive and grateful for my health, and feeling more and more optimistic all the time about having a long and healthy future. Thank you again for all of you who have prayed for me!!!

Next PET scan scheduled

Next PET scan scheduled

Written Oct 7, 2013 4:39pm

Things have continued to be great for me, other than that I can’t run right now due to my legs healing from stress fractures.  My next PET scan was scheduled today.  I will go in on November 4th and my scan will be read within a few days.  I will post my results when I get them. I feel optimistic that I will continue to enjoy good health.  I am about a year and a half in remission now, and the first five years are really critical.  If I can make it 5 years in remission, it is much more likely that the cancer will not return.

Great News!

Great News!

Written Jun 11, 2013 1:05am

So after my last PET scan, I was left feeling worried about that lymph node in my neck that was questionable.  I talked to the doctor about it and we decided to have it removed and tested rather than wait and repeat a PET scan soon, which really probably wouldn’t answer our question anyway.  We needed to really know if it was cancer or not, and so we decided on a little surgery.
Last Tuesday I went under general anesthesia and had 8 lymph nodes removed from the left side of my neck.  (I guess they took more out to make sure they got the correct one.)  We waited a couple of days for the pathology, and received the call on Thursday.
I was so relieved to hear that there was no cancer in those lymph nodes.  I really had been trying to put it out of my mind, but I’m so glad we got a definitive answer and now I won’t have to wonder if that lymph node was malignant or not.
I am sooooo sooooo grateful that I can just continue to be healthy and not in treatment, or worrying about cancer.  One more scar, but now I have peace of mind!!
Looking forward to running the AF Canyon Half Marathon this Saturday!

May 2013 PET scan results

May 2013 PET scan results

Written May 17, 2013 3:38pm

I had my 6-month PET scan last Friday and this morning got the results.  Overall it looks great, but it is not quite as definitive as I was hoping.  Basically there is a lymph node on my left side of my neck under my jaw that is a bit “iffy”.  It has a slightly higher metabolic rate, but it is probably just “reactionary” which means that it is because of a slight infection in my body.  The oncologist thinks it is probably nothing, but wants me to do another PET scan in 3 months just to follow up on it.
I think it is probably fine too.  I feel great, and am getting ready for a half marathon in a few weeks.  Honestly, I have just learned to live with a bit of uncertainty, basically thinking that we probably got rid of all the cancer, but never really knowing for sure.  So this is not something that is any different than that!!
I am happy about everything else in my body looking great, and am not too worried about that lymph node.  I’ll assume it is okay unless I find out otherwise in August.  And if that is the case then we will cut it the heck out of me and be done with it!!!  ;)
Love you guys!  Thanks for the prayers!

PET scan results Nov. ’12

PET scan results Nov. ’12

Written Nov 7, 2012 4:02pm

Last Friday I had my 6-month PET scan.  Branden went with me, and I drank the nasty stuff sitting in a dark room for 90 minutes, and then lied still in the PET/CT machine for another 30 with my right arm numb the whole time!!  =)
I didn’t ask to see the test after because I felt good about it, but didn’t want to risk seeing something questionable in the study and worrying about it all week until getting the results.  I am scheduled to go in tomorrow morning to get the official PET scan results, but the doctor was able to look through it today and had his nurse give me a call so that I would not be worrying until tomorrow morning.
Everything looks great!!  There is still evidence in my bones of where the cancer was, and some effect from the radiation, but it does not look like there is any cancer there.  I am so happy, grateful, and relieved!!!
Thank you so much for those who prayed for me.  I love you all!!!  I am bawling as I write this!  My heart is full of gratitude that God has seen fit to give me more time on this earth to be with those I love, and those who need me right now.
I will have another PET scan in May, but until then, I will live my life and not worry about my health anymore!!!!

New PET scan date

New PET scan date

Written Oct 31, 2012 5:49pm

My PET scan got moved up to this Friday, Nov. 2.  I still won’t get the results until either the 7th or 8th, but it will be nice to get the PET scan done before the weekend.  Branden will come with me, and my wonderful mother-in-law will be watching the kids so that he can be with me.
It is not painful or anything like that, it just is not something that I like or look forward to.  Glad that it will be over soon, and I look forward to good results so that I can put this out of my head for 6 more months!!  =)

Next PET scan scheduled

Next PET scan scheduled

Written Oct 24, 2012 11:05pm

I don’t know if anyone reads this blog anymore since it has been so long since I have updated it.  But just to keep it up to date, and in case anyone is checking up on me, I will give my update.
It has been so nice to enjoy life as a normal person the last few months.  It has been strange and a little surreal sometimes to make the adjustment to normal life after being treated for so long.
I am slowly getting my body stronger, and trying to eventually get off my heart medication.  I really can tell when I run/walk how I am doing, and it is a slow process, but I am getting stronger over time.  It may take longer than I had anticipated, but it’s coming!
The reason I am writing an update is because I have my next PET scan scheduled for November 5th.  The day before the election!  I will get my results on Nov. 7th or 8th and update this journal at that point. I think that everything will be fine.  I have been emotional a few times lately just thinking about it, but really, I do totally expect it to be a good result, . . . no cancer.
But if you are not too busy with all the buzz of the election at that time, feel free to send some prayers, thoughts, good vibes, (whatever you got), my way!!  I believe in the power of a lot of people praying for something.  It has worked before!  Thank you for anyone who is still checking in on me occasionally.  I am doing great, and will let you know my PET scan results as soon as I get them.

Remission!!

Remission!!

Written May 10, 2012 7:05pm

So, it’s official, my doctor (the radiation oncologist, who has been the most optimistic this whole time) has said that I am in a remission!  We went over the PET scan results today, and he said that my scan was combed over very carefully, and they cannot find any evidence of cancer anywhere.  He said that I could say that I am in a remission at this point.  It was great to get the official results today and to confirm that all this treatment has been effective for me.
He said that my case is very unique, and my other doctor has said that as well.  It is very surprising to them that I have no evidence of disease after what they saw on my PET scan last year at about this time.
We compared the two PET scans, (my first one and this last one) on a big monitor in his office.  I am just so glad that I don’t have to go back to last year and start over!!!
Even though I have been getting positive feedback from these scans and have felt that treatment has worked well for me, it is taking a while for it to sink in that I may be completely cured.  I think that is because I have been told so many times that that can’t happen for me.  Also, everything that I have looked up has usually confirmed that notion.  But now this doctor said that if I still have clean PET scans for the next four years that I will be considered “cured”.
Although I will still get a PET scan every year at that point for the rest of my life because I will still be at a greater risk of it returning with my history now.  My next scan will be in November.

Latest PET scan results

Latest PET scan results

Written Nov 29, 2011 10:30pm

Today I spent all day at the hospital.  I got up at 5:45 and left the house at 6:15.  Branden’s mom was kind enough to come over bright and early to be with our kids again.  Man!  What would we do without her?!!?!
Branden skipped work to come with me for my PET scan.  I have been looking forward to getting my PET scan and feeling optimistic about it, but I did feel kind of emotional yesterday as I thought about it and prayed fervently for a good result.
When we got up to the hospital I drank the nasty drink and got injected with the radioactive dye and sat in a dark quiet room for 75 minutes so that my brain wouldn’t metabolize the glucose as much.  Then I got strapped into the big PET scan machine and laid perfectly still for about 30 minutes, occasionally following orders to hold my breath and breath normally.  When it was done I went and met Branden in the waiting room.  It would take a couple of hours for the test results, and we had about 2 hours to kill until I could meet with Doctor “B” (which was next on my long agenda of appointments for the day).  So we went  out of the hospital and got some food and went shopping for a little bit and then went back to the hospital.
Dr. “B” came in and got right to the point because she knew that all we wanted was to know what my results were.  She said that she was very pleased.  There was no sign of any new tumors anywhere, and everything looked good in the breast and lymph node areas.
There were originally two spots on my spine that looked malignant, and one of those spots now looks clear of cancer.  The other spot on my spine and the spot on my left hip look better than before, but there is still something there.  They call it a “lesion” on the bone, and it could be either cancer or healing tissue in the bone where the cancer was.  The amount of metabolic activity in those areas has decreased from my first PET scan, but it is in a gray area and is impossible for them to really know if it is cancer or not.
At first I didn’t know how to take this news because I think Branden and I both thought we would get a more definitive answer about the cancer than this.  But Dr. “B” explained it this way:  Radiation actually works better than chemotherapy for killing cancer.  (I didn’t know this before today!)  But they can’t radiate your whole body because there are too many things in there that would get damaged from it, so they will only radiate very specific areas.  That’s why they usually do chemo first because it is a systemic treatment for the whole body, and can get some stray cancer cells that may be in random places in my body.
So now that we have done chemo and have found out that it has worked in reducing the cancer in my body, now we can radiate those specific areas where cancer was detected.  Then, since radiation is so effective, we have a good chance of getting rid of the cancer in those areas.  So, it is definitely good news!
As for the rest of my body, we will not know if there is cancer anywhere until some time has passed.  We will continue to do PET scans every three months for a while, and then every six months, and if anything shows up or is growing, then we will deal with it at that time.  If not, then after a few years we will know that we probably got it all.  I will just have to get used to not knowing all the answers for a while, but for now, my PET scan results are good, and I am still feeling very optimistic about beating this cancer!
After my appointment with Dr. “B” I went to the infusion room and got Herceptin (which I will continue to get every three weeks until at least next summer), and I got Zometa (a bone strengthener that I will get every six weeks.)  I also got my prescription filled for Tamoxafin, which is an estrogen blocker, and I took my first one tonight.  I wonder how that will make me feel?!
After all of that, we had to race down to American Fork hospital so that I could get my radiation for today.  Then we went back to get our kids and picked up a pizza.  We had a fun evening playing with the kids in the basement until bedtime.  I always miss the kids when I am away from them all day.  Whew!  I am glad today is over!!  Thank you everyone for all your prayers!!

PET scan results

PET scan results

Written Jul 8, 2011 11:02pm

Yesterday was the day I had my PET scan.  Branden took off work and came for moral support.  I am still in the hospital, so when it was time for the scan I just had to go down the hall.  It was funny that they told me to “fast” for 12 hours before the PET scan because I have basically been fasting for a whole week now!  But this time I was supposed to not eat.  Before the test I had to drink a nasty sweet drink that basically attracts the cancer cells to it.  Cancer likes sugar, and so the PET scan shows the areas in my body that are metabolizing the sugary substance I drank, and it glows on the scan.
I have been anticipating this PET scan ever since I started chemo, because it is the halfway progress report on how the chemo is working.  It really varies for everyone who is in chemo, and it all just depends on how well your body reacts to that specific type of chemo.  I have felt like the chemo is working, but I still felt very nervous, because the last time I had a PET scan I had terrible results which showed that my cancer had metastasized to two spots on my spine and one on my pelvis.  That was when I was categorized as having Stage 4 breast cancer.
For the scan I was strapped inside a big round white tube that moved my body back and forth while I had to lay perfectly still inside.  Occasionally a voice would tell me to hold my breath and then to begin breathing again.  This lasted for about 25 minutes, and then I was done and went back to my room.  We were not sure if we would get the results that day or not, and I bugged the doctors and nurses a few times to find out if my results were back in yet.
Branden had to leave before the results came in, but when the doctor came in to go over the pictures and report of my scan with me I called Branden and had him on speaker phone so he could listen.
The results are very positive.  We looked at the pictures of my old PET scan on one side of the computer and looked at the pictures of the new scan on the other side so that we could have a good comparison.  They were basically looking at four main areas:  The original site of my cancer and lymph nodes that was removed during surgery, the two places on my spine, and the spot on my pelvis (which had been the biggest spot before).
The site of my original lump and lymph nodes showed no cancer at all.  I hadn’t really been worried about that area, but it is possible to have a recurrence there, so that was good that it was clean.
Next we looked at my spine.  I looked at the old scan and saw the two spots that lit up showing the cancer on my vertebrae.  On the new scan the whole spine looked just the same.  There was no sign of any vertebrae glowing any brighter than any of the others.  We found the exact spots where the cancer had been, and there was no evidence of cancer there at all.  Another part of the scan showed healing tissue in those spots, which is further proof that the cancer is gone from my spine.  I was so happy I didn’t even know what to say, but I was still feeling very serious as we looked at the spot on my pelvis.
To me it looked like there was a very faint glow in the spot that had been very bright on the previous scan.  The doctor said that the amount of glow could actually just be from tissue that is healing, and they did not count it as cancer, although they cannot say for sure that there is not still a little bit of cancer in that spot on my pelvis.
The results of this PET scan are everything we could hope for.  The report stated that there was no evidence of the disease at this time, however the doctor reminded me several times that this did not mean that I am cured.  It also does not mean that there is not still some cancer out there, because the PET scan can’t pick up everything, but the results do show that the chemo that has been annihilating me has also been annihilating the cancer!!  That’s what I wanted to know.
I went back to my hospital room talking to Branden on the phone, and both of us were finally able to let go of the tense feeling we had had all day awaiting these results.  I cried of course, because I am just so grateful that this is working.
The doctor came in this morning and reminded me again that I was not cured, and that I need to continue treatment, of course.  He also reminded me that Stage 4 breast cancer is not ever considered curable, and that we were just trying to make sure that I was able to live as long as possible.  I’m not sure at all why he felt the need to put a damper on the very positive results that we got from the scan, but for some reason he did.  (This is not my normal doctor that I go to, just the one who is taking care of me while I am in the hospital.)
But later my doctor came in for a visit.  I told her of the pessimistic spin that this doctor put on my awesome PET scan results, and she made me feel a lot better and told me that we have every reason to celebrate and to be optimistic.
I am so so happy that the 4 rounds of chemo I have done so far have been effective, and I am certain that the next 4 rounds will get rid of any remaining cancer that is lurking in my body anywhere.  And I don’t care what that doctor says, I am planning on being cured!!!
For now, I am feeling a little better each day.  I still can’t believe the beating my body took from this chemo, and that I have had to be in this hospital for over a week now.  I miss my family so much, and I am hoping I can go home tomorrow.
Next week my doctor does not want me to do chemo again.  This is fine with me.  She wants me to get feeling completely better before we get going on the final four rounds.  She said that she does not think the next type of chemo will be as hard on me as this has been.  I should have the hardest part done with.  I am looking forward to getting home soon and having a couple weeks of feeling good!

My Diagnosis

My life has taken a really strange and unexpected turn. I am still in shock about this, and feel like I need to write. So much has happened in the last several weeks that I don’t know where to begin.

I found out that I have breast cancer. If that was not shocking enough, it’s really bad. Even though I have felt totally fine, apparently I am “incurable” according to doctors. My cancer is in Stage 4, which is the worst stage. It has spread from a lump in my right breast, to 24 lymph nodes under my arm (out of 25), to two places on my spine, and one place on my pelvis. When it spreads beyond the lymph nodes, and is out in your body in various places, it is considered Stage 4, and they don’t consider it curable. If I was told that my diagnosis was all a mistake, I could believe it, because I feel totally fine!

So let me back up a little bit and try to explain how I got to this point. Two months ago I didn’t have any suspicion that anything was wrong. We were in San Diego. Branden had just secured a new job in Utah, and our minds were full of everything about our move. With four kids, we cared a lot about where we would end up. We both have family in Utah, and my husband grew up here, so we knew it would be a great place to raise our kids. We were excited to finally be living in an affordable housing market so that we could be home owners again. We spent our evenings enthusiastically researching the best school districts in the area for great neighborhoods and houses. As we were figuring out where we would move, and how we would move, I was making a list of things to do before we left San Diego. On my list was a doctor’s appointment at the Breast Clinic. I have had a lump that I noticed for about 2 ½ – 3 years now, that I knew I should get checked out at some point. Before you roll your eyes and say that I was crazy to not have checked it out before, I must defend myself. For the past 3 years I have been either pregnant or breast-feeding, and it is pretty normal to have lumps in either situation.

The day before we left to go to Utah for Branden to start his new job, I had my appointment. We had found a house, but could not move into it for another month, but Branden needed to get started on his job. Alec (my oldest son) had the week off for Spring break, so we decided to go with Branden to Utah for his first week of work. We would stay at his parent’s house for the week, and then I would head back to San Diego with the kids. Branden would work for the next three weeks and we would prepare for our move.

When I went in for my appointment, I expected that I would have a mammogram and probably even a biopsy while I was there. Instead, I only was scheduled for an initial exam. The doctor felt the lump and, of course, felt all over the place to determine if there were any more lumps.  I explained to her that even though the lump was pretty big, I wasn’t too worried about it because I had been pregnant or nursing for so long and that I was sure it was just a clogged mild duct or something like that, but that I knew it would probably need to be surgically removed by now because it was so big and hard, and obviously wasn’t going to just go away on its own.

She seemed a little more concerned than I had expected. She asked me a few questions about when I had first felt it, etc., and then told me that I had another lump up in my armpit. I froze, “I do?!” I asked, alarmed. “Where?” I had never felt another lump before, or I would have definitely been more concerned about this. She helped me find the lump way high up in my armpit. She said that there were possibly a couple other little bumps up there, and that that was where my lymph nodes were.

My mind raced. I thought of an explanation. I had felt extremely tired the week before for a few days, and I said, “If I have recently had some sort of infection, could that show up in my lymph nodes anywhere?” She said that it could. I grasped on to that and tried to convince myself and the doctor that that must be what it was. The doctor told me that she was going to make some calls and try to schedule me for a mammogram and ultrasound the next morning. She said that it was very hard to get a mammogram appointment, and that is why they had not scheduled me for one initially.

I talked to Branden about it that night, and looked up a bunch of stuff on the internet. He was slightly concerned, but said that it was probably nothing, but good that they were going to check it out more thoroughly.  That night I woke up feeling very scared, and I talked to Branden. I said, “If it is breast cancer, it would have to be at least at Stage 2B because it has spread to a lymph node or two. But, . . . I’m sure it’s not. I’m sure that it is just a weird coincidence that that lymph node under my arm is swollen.” I spent the rest of the night trying to convince myself of that so that I could sleep.

In the morning I went in for my ultrasound and mammogram. After both, the doctor told me that while it was probably benign, as most of these things are, he still didn’t see what he needed to see to know that it was okay. He needed a biopsy to rule out cancer. I agreed that we should do one, and we did. Branden was finishing his last day at work, and I called him to tell him what was going on. He asked me if I needed him there for the biopsy, and I told him no. I knew he had a lot to do for his last day, and I told him that it was no big deal. After the biopsy we met at home and finished packing up for our trip. When Alec came home from school we began our long trip to Utah, and drove until about 2AM.

We spent the weekend helping Branden get ready for his first day of work at his new job. I had a hard time not thinking about the biopsy but I tried to keep it to myself. I wanted to be supportive of Branden, and I knew he needed to focus on his new job. I did share my concern with him one night, but we both quickly agreed that everything was okay. Branden even went so far as to say that I should have put off my doctor’s appointment ‘til later so that we wouldn’t be worrying about it right then when we were so busy with the new job and moving. I had a sense that something was not right ever since the doctor found a lump under my arm, but I was trying hard to convince myself that everything had to be okay.

The next day while Branden was at his first day of his new job, I was playing with my kids along with my mother-in-law (who knew nothing of my lump or biopsy) and my phone rang. It was a San Diego number and I went in the other room to take it discreetly. A kind sounding lady was on the other end and she told me that she wanted to talk to me about the results of my biopsy. She asked me if I had a minute and was in a place where I could talk. This couldn’t be good. I replied, “yes” and she delivered the news that I knew was coming, despite my greatest efforts to deny the obvious.

“The biopsy showed that the lump is cancerous.” Adrenaline immediately coursed through my body. I was completely shocked on one level, but not really that surprised on another level. I tried to sound calm and ask the pertinent questions. I spoke with her for a few minutes, and she told me that it would be considered Stage 2 because of the size of the tumor. I told her that we had also found a lump in my armpit and asked if that would put me at Stage 2B if it was malignant too, and she replied “yes”.

She told me that I would need surgery, of course, and that I would also need to go through chemotherapy. “Will I lose my hair?” I asked. “Yes” she gently answered. She said that chemotherapy would probably be for about 4-5 months, and I don’t really remember anything else she told me in that conversation. I know that she told me she was so sorry to tell me the news.

When I got off the phone I went upstairs to the room we were staying in and closed the door. I got down on my knees right away and offered up a plea to God. “Oh Heavenly Father, I’m so scared!! I can’t believe it’s cancer. Please let me be okay. Please help me to be okay, and help me know how to tell Branden.” Tears streamed down my face, and then I quickly tried to compose myself so that I could go down and play with my kids without seeming upset. I wasn’t ready to tell my mother-in-law what was going on yet. I needed a little time for it to sink in for me first. I wanted to tell Branden first.

But before Branden got home I called my sister a few hours after I first received the news. She was shocked, and questioned how I knew it was really cancer, and I told her the whole story of the biopsy. She was surprised that I had not told her what was going on, and I told her that I didn’t want to scare anyone unnecessarily. I cried a little bit to her on the phone and told her that I was really worried about how Branden would take it, and that it was horrible timing because I wanted him to be able to just focus on his new job.

Branden got home a little later that night, which was to be expected on his first day. When he came home we ate and I looked for the opportunity to talk to him. I couldn’t keep it to myself anymore. I asked him to come upstairs and talk with me for a minute. When we shut the door, I got right to the point and told him that I had received the results of the biopsy, and stated firmly to him that it was cancer. He dropped to his knees and put his head in his hands and said, “How could this happen.” I said, “Branden, it’s going to be okay. It’s very curable at this stage, and it’s going to be okay. I do have to do chemotherapy, and she said I’m going to lose my hair and everything, but it’s just what we have to do.” Another shocked reaction from Branden when I mentioned chemo and losing my hair. We held each other and talked for a few minutes more, said a prayer together, and went out to be with everyone before our absence would be noticed too much.

Branden had slumped shoulders the rest of the evening. At one point his mom asked him if everything was okay. He replied, “yes”, and she said, “Okay, well you just look like the weight of the world is on your shoulders or something.”

We waited a couple of days before sharing our news with Branden’s family. I called my mom who is on a church welfare mission in Fresno and told her what was going on. I assured her that I was a strong person, and that everything would be okay. I also called my brother, who is not the best about calling. The first thing he said was, “I was just thinking of calling you this morning.” I was surprised,

“Why?” I said.

“I don’t know” was his reply, “I just was out on a run and I started thinking about you and thought that I should give you a call.”

“Well”, I said, “maybe there was a reason you were thinking of me.”

After sharing the news with both of our families, we felt a huge burden to figure out what we were supposed to do. Branden made calls at work to make sure our insurance was in place, and I made calls to different cancer clinics around Utah. I was on Branden’s health plan, and since he had already started his new job, we had Utah insurance, so I would need to be treated here.

We made the decision to extend our stay in Utah so that I could get into surgery as quickly as possible. Alec was missing school, and had already missed a lot this year, but that was the least of our concerns at that point! It was so hectic having my kids at my in-laws house for too long, because they were into everything. My three littlest are ages 3, 3, and 1. Their house was definitely fun for my kids, but not child-proof at all!

After many phone calls with doctors, we finally decided on a Dr. “R” in Utah County. He was able to get us in much quicker than the Huntsman doctors, and sounded like he could get us into surgery sooner as well. I had an initial appointment with him and found him to be very kind. He was able to get me in for surgery with a very reputable surgeon on the next Friday.

I was anxious for the surgery. I wanted to get the cancer out of my body as soon as possible.

After surgery I stayed overnight at the hospital rather than going home because I was vomiting from the anesthesia. I went to stay with my sister the following week so that she could watch my kids while I recuperated. I went home from the hospital with a drain coming out of my side to drain the lymph fluid out of me since all of my lymph nodes had been removed from my right side under my arm. It was a disgusting little contraption that filled with yellow fluid throughout the day and needed to be drained occasionally. I had to protect it so that my kids would not accidentally yank it out from the stitched place where the tube came out of my side.

During surgery the surgeon removed the “sentinel node” and it was immediately tested for cancer. When the test showed that it was indeed malignant, then, by protocol, all the rest of the lymph nodes were removed. There were 25 in all. I had to wait a few days to receive the pathology on those lymph nodes.

Recovery was okay, but I felt more frustrated with the drain than I should have. I had to wait until there was less than a certain amount of fluid draining before it could get removed. I was planning on going back to San Diego that weekend, and didn’t want to go back with the drain still in place. I could not move my arm freely, and definitely couldn’t lift my kids, but they were in good hands with my sister and her older kids who were happy to play with them a lot while I rested.

When the surgeon called me that Thursday the news was not good. First, the pathology showed that she had not gotten completely clean margins around the lump in my breast. She would need to go in again (another surgery) and scrape a little more tissue out under the area where the lump had been. She said that this would be a quick and minor surgery that was not nearly as hard to recover from.

But the worse news was that out of the 25 lymph nodes that had been removed, 24 of them were malignant. I said, “Really?!” I said, “That’s not good.” She confirmed that that was definitely not good news. She said that would put me at Stage 3B rather than at stage 2 as we had initially thought.

My heart sunk. The lump was also slightly bigger than we had thought before surgery too. It was 3.5 cm. rather than 2.7. The surgeon said that while my blood work seemed to indicate that my cancer had not metastasized, she felt that we should do a PET scan of my whole body to make sure. I was scheduled to come in the next day for the follow up surgery and PET scan.

When I told Branden about the pathology results over the phone that night, he came through for me and said just what I needed to hear. I was scared myself, but I was also worried about how he would handle it. I felt like I had been trying to be strong for both of us, and now he was being brave just when I needed it the most.

First he told me that he wished he could be there to give me a big hug. Then he told me that he knew everything would be okay. He said, “Denise, so what if it’s Stage 3 instead of Stage 2?! I know that you are going to make it through this, so they could tell us that you are Stage 19 and it wouldn’t make any difference!”

I love Branden’s way of overstating things!! I laughed out loud and said, “Branden, that’s just what I needed to hear. You are right, I am going to make it through this! Thank you for being so confident sounding. That is just what I needed to hear. But, I’ll be honest, Branden, if they tell me I’m in Stage 19 I’m going to be a little bit worried!!!”

The surgery was uneventful, and easier to recover from than the first surgery. I still was not able to remove the drain though. It was still collecting too much fluid. The PET scan was a bigger deal than I realized. It took about an hour, and I was not able to move the whole time. I had to breath in and hold my breath several times during the test, and hold perfectly still.

When I was done I wanted to look at the PET scan. I knew that it was supposed to light up anywhere there was cancer. When I had looked at my chest X-ray before, I had been scared because I saw something on it that I suspected was a tumor in my lungs. I had waited, terrified, all weekend, only to find out that my chest X-ray was clear. I had been looking at my aortic valve instead of a tumor. I was mad at myself for being scared out of my mind all weekend unnecessarily. The doctor had told me ominously that if something did show up on my chest X-ray that it was considered “incurable”, but that he didn’t think that would be the case, and that we would discuss that when the time came if necessary. This whole thing had me so frozen with fear that I was having a hard time eating or sleeping. I was trying to get a grasp on things, but it was hard.

I had to look at the PET scan when I was done. I couldn’t stop myself from asking. The technician told me I could look, but that he couldn’t read it for me. I knew he probably could, but I didn’t argue. I told myself that if I saw anything suspicious looking I was not going to freak out because I was not trained to know what I was seeing.

Right away I could see a few spots that were bright. He told me that the brain and bladder were always lit up, but there were more bright spots than just those. I saw a couple places on my spine and one on my hip that were lit up. I asked him about those, and he said that he didn’t know why they were lit up. He said that sometimes it could be arthritis, but it could also be cancer. He was very kind and told me to be positive. He told me that his Dad had beat stage 4 prostate cancer, and that attitude was very important. I thanked him for letting me look, but was quickly wishing that I hadn’t. I kept all my fear inside me because it wouldn’t do any good to imagine that I had really seen something on my PET scan that showed my cancer had spread. It wouldn’t do me any good, and it wouldn’t do Branden any good.

We drove back to San Diego together with no answers. I felt a foreboding feeling about the PET scan, and I was still recovering from surgery and frustrated with the drain that was still attached to my side. The kids cried about half the way back to San Diego. Even though they are small, they could sense our stress, and it was wearing on all of us. I was unsure how I would be able to take care of the kids for the next few days by myself while Branden went back to Utah to work before coming home for our move. I didn’t want to scare Branden, but I calmly told him that I saw some stuff on the PET scan that looked like it was lit up. He reminded me what the doctor had said about my blood work, and told me that there was no way it had spread. I had him repeat what the doctor had said exactly about the blood work, and then I tried to believe it.

The next few days in San Diego I spent sorting through things and making final arrangements for our move. We had packers coming to pack everything, but there were still so many details I had to take care of, and stuff I needed to sort through. Mostly though, there were four kids who needed me, and I was hardly able to lift anyone because of my surgery, and I still had my darn drain!!

I called on Tuesday to find out if my results were in from the PET scan. I was told that they would be read the next day. Branden was scheduled to travel back home on Wednesday, the packers would come on Thursday, and we would get the moving truck loaded up and drive to Utah on Friday.

On Wednesday I called the doctor’s office again to enquire about the results. I had a worried feeling, and I wanted to hear the results sooner rather than later. The receptionist said she would call me back. A little while later she called back to tell me that the doctor had not had a chance to look at the PET scan yet, but that he would call me that night after he had looked them over. I repeated to her, “So, . . . He hasn’t looked at them yet?” Pause. “Correct” she said.

That was weird, and I tried to not think of what that meant. Branden called before his plane took off and asked if I had received the results yet. I told him that the doctor would be calling me later.

A friend from church called a short time later and asked if she could come by to help with the kids so that I could get some packing done that evening. I agreed, and she stopped by. Shortly after she arrived, about 7:30PM, I received the call from the doctor. I told her that I needed to take it and went out in our driveway to be alone while she watched the kids.

The doctor said he needed to talk to me about my PET scan results. Then he started stalling. He asked if my husband was home, and I said that he was traveling home as we spoke. I knew that bad news was coming, and I was so scared I was shaking a little bit.

Finally he told me that the PET scan showed that the cancer had spread to the bones. He told me that there were two spots on my spine and one on my pelvis. I asked him if that meant that I was in Stage 4, and he said, “Yes”. He told me that Stage 4 is considered “Incurable”.

When he said the word “incurable” I have never felt so hopeless before. I looked out at some kids riding their bikes past me and wondered if this was really happening. I calmly asked him if he was sure. He said that he was sure. He told me several times that he was so sorry to have to tell me this over the phone, and that he wished that my husband was there with me. I asked him if it was normal that I felt totally fine? He said that was sometimes the case. He told me that my survival rates were about 18-20% for five years, and down to about 5% for ten years. I told him that I had heard of a girl who beat Stage 4 cancer, and he quickly corrected that notion by saying, “Well, it depends on your definition of ’beat’”. He said that no one can say that they beat it only a year or two after, because it would come back. He said that at some point the cancer spreads too much and that it cannot be permanently cured. That is what Stage 4 is.

He apologized several times for telling me this news, but he would not let me get any hopes up. He told me that he needed to tell me the facts so that I could make the “hard decisions”. He even told me that one option was to not even treat it. I was baffled. I said, “Well of course I am going to try to treat it! I have four kids!!”

He said, “And that is what I would definitely recommend in your situation.” I had not cried yet, and my mind was racing trying to think of all the questions I should ask. I asked about chemo, and he said that we would reevaluate our plan, but that we could still probably start chemo in about three weeks as we had planned. Finally my voice cracked and tears started to pour as I asked him again, “Is it NORMAL that I feel JUST FINE??!!!”

Branden called when his plane landed, and I tried to avoid talking for long on the phone to him. I wanted to tell him in person. But before I could get off the phone with him he asked, “Have you heard from the doctor yet?” I said, “Yes”, and I told him that I would tell him about it when he got home. I knew when I said that that it wouldn’t fly. I couldn’t make him wait. I said, “Branden, it’s not good.” I told him that the cancer had spread and that I was in Stage 4. I told him in a rush that the doctor told me it was “incurable”. He was too shocked to say much, and a friend was waiting right there for him to take him home. He told me he would be home in half an hour.

When Branden got home Alec wanted to say hi to him, and Branden quickly tucked him in with a smile on his face. Then he told Alec that he needed to go to sleep, and he took me into our room. We laid down on our bed together and held each other and both of us began sobbing.